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Paint – Thinning and Additives
Additives to aid in paint drying
Adding ALCOHOL to paint...
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Additives to aid in paint drying
From: Jim
Date: 11/16/00 3:29:16 PM
Is there anything that can be added to SW set fast acrylic to help it dry faster
in colder temps? One hour spraying and 6 hrs to dry isn't cutting it.
From: Sprayman110
Date: 11/16/00 6:22:34 PM
There is nothing you can add to make the paint dry faster. You need to switch to
oil base, for colder weather. Although I have used water base down to 40
degrees, and sunny. You should also keep a record on all the jobs, for the
weather. It is something to go back on when you have problems with a job. You
have to know your limitations. Those records will tell you that, and the
problems that you encounter. Joe
From: ohio joe
Date: 11/17/00 11:20:24 PM
I have been using alkyd paint for years, with no problems, in temperatures as
low as 15 degrees. The paint is safe for traffic in 30 minutes or less, even
with the thicker applications due to the increased viscosity.
From: NV
Date: 12/15/00 7:13:19 PM
You can try FRANKLIN PAINT COMPANY in MASS., they have excellent paint, it dries
fast even WITHOUT their FAST DRY brand, And you should be able to get it for
$5.85 a gallon minus a cash discount that's available, 1-800-486-0304. IF YOU
ADD ALCOHOL TO IT ABOUT 2 TO 3 OZ. PER GALLON, IT'LL DRY REALLY FAST, THIS
DOESN'T WORK WITH ALL WATERBORNES, AND THE GUYS WILL TELL YOU NOT TO, BUT IT
WORKS!!
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From: NIGHTVISIONS
Date: 12/6/00 11:36:24 PM
In my recent adventures in striping (I HAVE JUST BEGUN), I have heard one person
tell me I can use ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL (rubbing alcohol) to make the paint dry
faster, now this seemed to work well for my first LATEX PAINT I got from
FRANKLIN PAINT COMPANY, but now I am using a thicker paint from SAFETY
COATINGS,WITHOUT THE STRONG SMELL, the FRANKLIN paint had, but it does not look
to increase drying time at all with the ALCOHOL added. Now I know it depends on
all the conditions, HUMIDITY, ETC., but is it possible not all latex paints dry
faster with ALCOHOL?
From: Don
Date: 12/7/00 9:45:06 AM
Please excuse me but what the heck are you doing? If alcohol was supposed to be
in latex paint they would sell it to you at Sherwin-Williams with instructions.
Just because somebody tells you something doesn't make it sensible. I've even
seen some people add diesel fuel to pavement sealers which is adding something
that dissolves asphalt to something that's supposed to protect it! If you want
fast dry times by a fast dry paint such as Sherwin-Williams SetFast or switch to
chlorinated rubber or alkyd.
From: jpanz
Date: 12/7/00 12:50:47 PM
Thank you Don, Why would you add anything to your paint. As Don said, if you are
that worried about the drying time. CHANGE to a fast drying paint or try the
Hotline Paint from Sherwin Williams. Also, If it is not selected asphalt, use
oil based which dry fast no matter what the temp is outside. And do not add Jap
dryer to striping paint it damages the pigment.
Jim
From: NV
Date: 12/7/00 11:08:53 PM
I only used the alcohol because a striper suggested it in the first place, he
said the alcohol absorbs the water in the paint and that is how he gets it to
dry faster. Now another company suggested to use it because they use alcohol in
their fast dry paint.
ADDING ALCOHOL TO PAINT
From: Steve
Date: 12/16/00 7:21:45 PM
You can add alcohol to latex paint to make it dry faster. In standard latex
striping paint it should not adversely affect the paint. I always add one pint
per 5 gallons when striping at night. By the way I found out about adding
alcohol from the manufacturer of the paint. It is what they add to the fast
drying paint they sell. Good luck,
Steve
From: Bookman
Date: 12/17/00 2:52:16 PM
Ah Ha! I'm beginning to see the problem. If a person thinks, in error, that
alcohol is just alcohol, that may be the problem. There are 2 types. If
isopropyl alcohol, commonly sold in the health & beauty departments as rubbing
alcohol, is used it would be counter-productive to drying the paint because it
is considered a "wet" type of alcohol. However, if you buy a can of alcohol at a
paint store or in the paint department of a Wal-Mart for example, you should be
buying anhydrous alcohol, which is considered a "dry" alcohol. The anhydrous
type is the primary component in gas line antifreeze additives. I suspect that's
where the problem occurred with the alcohol post earlier. Warning: Do not get
clever and think about trying gas line antifreeze as an alternative. Gas line
antifreeze generally contains about 33% acetone, which is used as an extender
because it is cheaper than dry alcohol, and also provides cleaning of the fuel
line, carb, and/or injectors. The acetone will play hell with your paint.
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From: Rob
Date: 11/21/99 9:09:15 PM
I have had the opportunity to re-stripe some parking lots part time. We have
used a fast dry Alkyd Traffic paint(not latex)and we were told to mix it with
Toluene. One gallon of paint to one quart of Toluene. Is this a common practice
or are there other types of paint that do not require mixing? Will this type
paint work on most common jobs and run well through most striping machines? I
believe ours is called a Lunay Liner and seems to be a few years old. Thank you.
From: Fonz
Date: 11/21/99 9:09:48 PM
One gallon of paint to one quart of toluene????.............That's a "Gypsy
mix"...........good for one job and the money.....then drive 50 miles to the
next job........cause you'll never get a second job in the same town.
From: ken
Date: 11/21/99 9:10:27 PM
The toluene will cause the paint to flash faster but be careful. If you mix that
much toluene with alkyd, be sure not to leave it in your machine for a long
period. It will shock the paint and make it solidify even if it isn't exposed to
air. Then, you have problems with cleaning out the machine.
From: Rob
Date: 11/21/99 9:11:05 PM
Could too much Toluene cause the spray tip to clog up after only painting a few
lines? I was thinking that the paint was not thin enough. Perhaps it was too
much Toluene mixed with the Alkyd paint. What is the best way to mix it or
should it be mixed at all?
From: Potter
Date: 11/21/99 9:11:43 PM
If you have a Lunay, then it is most likely an air atomized striper. I could try
to help, but your best bet would be to contact Jim Lunay at....help@jclequipment.com.......or
visit their web site........www.jclequipment.com/ Mr. Lunay is a very
knowledgeable man. I am sure he can answer all your questions. Good
Luck...............Potter
From: YAZ
Date: 9/24/00 8:35:40 PM
FOR ALMOST 15 YEARS I HAVE BEEN STRIPING,SHERWIN WILLIAMS WORKS GREAT..1 SHERWIN
WILLIAMS SET-FAST STRIPING PAINT..2 GOOD EQUIPMENT..
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